Applies to:
[x] C&P Classic
[x] C&P Pro
[x] Job Tracker
[x] C&P SQL
[x] My C&P!
See also:
Apple Computer
OS
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Summary: The
top Mac OS questions and answers from Clients &
Profits users
Q.
Does Clients & Profits run on Mac OS X?
Yes. Clients & Profits
runs well with Mac OS 10.2 and higher, but not earlier
versions of OS X (10.1, etc.). It also works perfectly
with with earlier versions of the Mac OS. Note that
Clients & Profits runs in the Classic environment of
OS X. Get more information about OS X compatibility
here.
Q. Will Clients &
Profits run on an iMac or eMac?
Yes. The iMac or eMac are both ideal computers
for Clients & Profits since they are fast -- and even include built-in
high-speed Ethernet. Since Clients & Profits isn't installed from
floppy disks, the lack of a floppy disk drive isn't a problem. 
Q. What
version of the Mac OS is best for running Clients &
Profits?
Clients & Profits runs
fine under either OS 9 or OS X (using the Classic
environment). It works in previous versions of the Mac
OS, but don't use any version before Mac OS 7.5.5 on ANY
computer that's running Clients & Profits -- these
old versions can corrupt your C&P database under
certain circumstances. 
Q.
Do all Clients & Profits users have to have the same
version of the Mac OS?
No. It's probably easier to
manage a network of Macs if they're all configured
identically, so it's recommended. 
Q. Does Clients & Profits work
with AppleShare IP 6?
Yes. The faster performance
and better reliability of AppleShare IP 6 dramatically
improved the speed of Clients & Profits, especially
when saving. And if you run AppleShare IP 6 on a PowerMac
G3/G4-based file server, everything you do with Clients
& Profits will seem substantially faster. There are
no known incompatibilities or limitations between Clients
& Profits and AppleShare IP 6. 
Q. Can we share Clients & Profits
using personal file sharing, or do we need a big
server?
Yes,
but only if a few people will be sharing Clients &
Profits. The personal file sharing built into Mac OS 9
can only handle 10 users a time, while AppleShare can
support hundreds. Plus, a dedicated, stand-alone file
server running AppleShare is much more stable, dependable
-- and runs much faster -- than a Mac that's both a
server AND a workstation. The problem with combining a
workstation with a server is that any crash, freeze, or
delay caused by a user's work (e.g., Excel freezes while
printing a spreadsheet) disrupts everyone who's connected
to it and sharing Clients & Profits. Every time the
server crashes there's a risk of data corruption, which
is time-consuming to fix. A dedicated server that's
devoted to sharing Clients & Profits is far less
likely to crash. Using the built-in file sharing is only
practical for shops with five or fewer people sharing
Clients & Profits. 
Q. What's the best Mac to get for a
typical Clients & Profits user?
The eMac is an ideal Clients
& Profits workstation for the typical production
manager, account executive, traffic coordinator, or
accounting person. It's fast, space-efficient,
inexpensive, and offers the option to boot in OS 9. It
comes complete configured for Clients & Profits, so
there are no extras to buy. Of course, you can run
Clients & Profits on any G3 or G4-based Mac
(including PowerBooks/iBooks). 
Q. How can Clients &
Profits be shared by our Windows users?
It's easy. All you need is an
Ethernet network to which all of your Macs and PCs are
connected -- and a file server such as AppleShare IP or
Windows 2000. First, you'll create a shared folder (i.e.,
sub-directory) on the file server that can be accessed by
both Mac users and Windows users for the C&P
database. (It should be called something like ACCT_DATA
or C&P_DATA, but be sure to keep the name short so
that older versions of Windows can read it correctly.)
Then give your C&P users access to this directory.
You'll need to name your Clients & Profits database
so that it ends in .DF1 (this is important, since that's
how C&P recognizes it from any computer). Once the
database is moved into the shared folder, the users
should be able to mount the file server and open the
database.
Q.
Can we open Clients & Profits using aliases?
Yes,
but be sure to make an alias of the Clients & Profits
application -- not the C&P Player or the database.
Why? If you double-click on an alias of the C&P
Player, it'll start up but prompt you to select the
Clients & Profit application (which is an extra
step). If you double-click on an alias of the C&P
database, you may open an old version of the Clients
& Profits application (which can happen if previous
versions were never removed when updates were installed).
When the C&P application is opened, the C&P
Player and database are opened automatically, which makes
it the preferred way to launch Clients & Profits. 
Q.
Does Clients & Profits work with RAM Doubler and
Speed Doubler?
Yes.
Both of these popular Connectix utilities are compatible
Clients & Profits. Power Mac G3's don't benefit from
Speed Doubler as much as old Power Macs, especially the
very early models. RAM Doubler allows more programs to
run at the same time, but you still need at least 32mb of
RAM to run Clients & Profits and other applications
simultaneously. 
Q. Can Clients & Profits be
automated with AppleScript?
Not really. Most operations in Clients &
Profits, such as printing reports, require some sort of
data to be entered (like a range of dates), which makes
it difficult to automate. Graphics programs and word
processors lend themselves more to scripting and macros
because they have many more routine processes.

Q. Can Clients & Profits
be accessed remotely? REMOTE
ACCESS message board
Yes, you can create a virtual
network over the internet (or directly between
locations), and install Clients & Profits at the
remote location. However, it may work too slowly to be
comfortably usable. Clients & Profits involves a lot
of sending and receiving of data, such as client info,
jobs, tasks, time sheets, purchase orders, etc. because
processing occurs at the client. You will find Clients
& Profits works slowly even if the database location
and remote location have a high-speed line (i.e., DSL,
Cable, T1). Two other remote options are available that
will increase the remote user's speed when using Clients
& Profits. The first is to use an application to
remotely control a workstation at the database location,
such as Timbuktu (see next question on this FAQ). The
second is to use our web based client, My!
C&P. This has a limitation in that not all
C&P functions are supported. 
Q. Can Clients & Profits
be operated remotely using Timbuktu?
Yes. Timbuktu
(www.netopia.com/software/) lets a user remotely control
a Mac or PC in the office. The computer in the office
would be connected to the file server and run Clients
& Profits; the remote user simply controls it using a
copy of Timbuktu from their laptop or home computer. The
only thing sent to the remote location are screen images
(no data is sent to the remote location since Clients
& Profits is opened on the LAN where the database is
located). There are two limitations. First, only one
person can control a computer at a time. Second, there
isn't a standard way of printing at the remote location.
Keep in mind that often your Clients & Profits users
utilize the Print to Screen option and don't have the
need to print to a printer. However, if they need a hard
copy of a report, you can print to PDF and e-mail this
file back to the remote location, or for the more
technically inclined, you can set up a printer with an IP
address at the remote location and print over TCP/IP back
to this printer. We at Clients & Profits, don't
support setting up these printing scenarios. 
Q. Does Clients & Profits
make its own backups? BACKING
UP message board
No, you'll need a reliable backup system --
something like Retrospect and a tape backup, DAT, or Jaz
drive -- to store daily copies of your Clients &
Profits database. A set of daily tapes should be rotated
so that there are several redundant copies, just in case
a tape fails. You can never be too careful or paranoid
about your backups. 
Q.
Why does the mouse pointer sometimes become a cursor?
The padlock cursor means two things: (1) the
record you're trying to update is already being edited by
another user, so the record is locked, or (2) the server
and/or network is so busy that communication has been
delayed.
The padlock cursor looks like this: 
Whenever a record (such as a job, an invoice,
a PO, etc.) is being added, edited, or saved the
pointer (i.e. cursor) will become a padlock
when the same record is used by some other user -- who
started edited it before you. This is a natural, normal
feature of multi-user databases to ensure that two people
dont update the same record at the same time. The
padlock cursor disappears automatically as soon as the
person whos editing the record saves their changes,
usually within seconds. But theres no way to know
how long the user will keep it locked while making their
changes -- and there's no way to know who's editing the
record you want. You can cancel the padlock by press
command-period (or a Mac) or control-break (on a PC) then
canceling whatever you were editing. After a minute, try
editing the record again; if the record isn't locked,
you'll be able to save your changes without getting
locked out. If you get a padlock cursor and don't want to
wait DO NOT FORCE THE PROGRAM TO QUIT, TURN OFF, OR
RESTART YOUR COMPUTER -- this can damage the database.

Q. Can
Clients & Profits be used with DAVE?
DAVE
message board
No.
There is an incompatibility between Thursby System's
DAVE
and Clients & Profits that causes the system to
freeze when something is being saved. There is no known
workaround. For more information about a compatible
version of DAVE, please contact Thursby Systems at (817)
478-5070. 
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